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Thread: Alain V. 16v track day project

  1. #41
    Regardless of the method, all that matters is that the finished product works.
    Good work
    1985 190e 2.0 8v forged internals, 5spd MT, EFI, 16v interior, sportline exterior, working on the turbo header now

    1986 190e 2.3-16 Nam, 5spd MT, stripped to the bone, I swear I'll start building it into a track car soon, seriously.

  2. I figured it was time for a few updates on my project. Here is the aluminum panel I made for the sunroof,,,,,YES there's a crease/dent in it but it will do for now until I have time to make a nicer one.


    I decided to try the "plasti=dip" stuff so I got a couple of cheap cans on sale at my local home improvement store.


    It worked well enough that I used it on the whole roof to help cover up the bad clearcoat.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  3. I also decided to try something to make my dash board look a little better. The dash is cracked all over so I took some lightweight "mouse fur" type stuff and glued it onto the dash for a cleaner look.




    I also threw in a light pass seat and belts that can be quickly removed/installed.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  4. I also borrowed an idea from one of you guys here, and made a fan shroud out of a baking pan.






    I finished it off by fabbing up a top panel that also has tabs in the original location so the stock mercedes clips can hold it in place.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  5. When I was finally ready for my first start with the new megasquirt conversion, I was having a heck of a time getting the ignition system to spark on time and consistantly.
    After a bunch of checking I realized that my motorcycle coils were causing issues with the EDIS box, so I took the bike coils off and just decided to try a stock EDIS 4 coil.

    With the EDIS coil the car started on the first try and actually ran very VERY well right away. (I have since then discovered that I should have wired each pair of bike coils in series in order to have enough resistance for the EDIS to work with them,,,,but the car runs so good with the stock ford stuff that I'm going to keep the EDIS 4 coil on it for now.)

    For those who have considered doing an EFI swap but are hesitating. (yes-it is some time consuming work) but I have owned 5 different 16v 190s over the years and this car with EFI now starts better cold or warm, idles smoother, has crisper throttle response, than any of the other 16vs I've ever had.
    I haven't had any time to do any dyno tuning, and haven't even really fooled with my basic first map at all yet,but was able to drive the car for nearly 100 miles on a track day and never had to hook up the lap top or,,,,,, even really open the hood even once! The AFR stayed a little on the rich side which is fine with me, and it never hiccupped of skipped a beat at all. It was very well worth the effort.

    Also I want to pint out that all of my weight loss efforts are also proving positive results. I weighed the car at the track scales with 3/4 of a tank of fuel and it weighed 2371 pounds! Looks like my goal of 2000 pounds is very reachable since I still have al the glass in the car and all the original metal body work on it except the sunroof skin.

    Plans for this winter are to either scrape up enough money to buy a fiberglass hood and deck lid, or teach my self how to make my own....
    also will be replacing the rear window and rear door windows with lexan, and plan to start chopping up the inner structure of the rear doors.
    I also now have a 3.92 rear gear, so I hope to find an extra 190e housing to put those into. I will take detailed pics and show you all the specs of the spacers needed if i manage to get to this this winter. It may be a lot to do for me because I am also in the gathering of funds mode and planning stages to build a little shop(36x48) behind my house, so I can work on my projects at home!



    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  6. #46
    where'd you get that mouse hair stuff? build is looking good, keep it up!
    1984 2.3 8v Lorinser - Drift/track competition - "Gr°nne Pige"
    1984 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Sent to Graveyard - "Steve"
    1985 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Daily - "Darkwing"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM 5-Speed - Donor - "Rusty Trumpet"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM Auto - Basket Case - "Ph÷nix"
    1987 2.3-16 NAM VEMS EFI 5-Speed - Track/Canyon - "Dimples"

  7. Quote Originally Posted by secretmachine View Post
    where'd you get that mouse hair stuff? build is looking good, keep it up!
    I got it at my local Oreilly auto parts store. It's real thin & lightweight carpet like stuff that is made from recycled plastic bottles.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  8. #48
    Thanks for posting the weight of the car! It gives me a good idea on where my weighs in at. I already have the lexan windows in the rear doors and a plastic fuel cell. Just recently removed all the sunroof components and will cover the hole with a piece of lexan.
    Thanks for sharing!


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    '84 2.3 8v(Project Blue)
    '86 3.0(track car)R.I.P.
    '90 1.8 Euro(SOLD)
    '95 E320 wagon
    '07 GL 320

  9. Great work!! Thanks for sharing!

  10. Really love the project, Alain!
    1987 W201 190E 16v: Vintage racer
    1990 300CE-24 Coupe: Daily driver
    1991 Peugeot 405 Mi16: Weekend toy

  11. #51
    I see from the engine picture, that you still have the plastic thermostat cover. It would be wise to change it to the metal one as the plastic ones are prone to cracking over time and heat generated in track racing probably makes it worse. There is a topic in this forum with all the neccesary part numbers.

    Last time I asked (a few years ago), the plastic cover was arˇund 3 EUR and the metal one was around 10 EUR if I remember correctly so quite a cheap upgrade.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    I see from the engine picture, that you still have the plastic thermostat cover. It would be wise to change it to the metal one as the plastic ones are prone to cracking over time and heat generated in track racing probably makes it worse. There is a topic in this forum with all the neccesary part numbers.

    Last time I asked (a few years ago), the plastic cover was arˇund 3 EUR and the metal one was around 10 EUR if I remember correctly so quite a cheap upgrade.
    I'll second this. Cheap insurance really.

    https://www.ecstuning.com/Mercedes_Be...tat/ES1626674/

    Make sure to get the banjo fitting as well.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Alain V. View Post
    Upon rereading your thread I noticed that the intake could be improved a bit. Assuming you have the original radiator, there is space next to the radiator where the original intake got its air through the grille. I would cut or bend or redesign your intake, so it would start next to the radiator and fabricate a shroud to it so you could have a genuine cold air ram intake like the original one is.

  14. Good point. That air filter set up was just temporary as I was running out of time for the track day I wanted to participate in.

    I actually have another elbow that I am installing which mounts the air filter through the area where the stock dryer used to be for the A/C, out of the engine compartment behind the front bumper.

    Sadly, my local racetrack (Heartland Park) is bankrupt and there are no events scheduled tor this season.
    So I may not have any track day updates for a while. I did try to do some autocross/solo events,,,but just find that too boring to bother with anymore.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  15. #55
    autoX is very boring when you get a taste for the track!
    1984 2.3 8v Lorinser - Drift/track competition - "Gr°nne Pige"
    1984 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Sent to Graveyard - "Steve"
    1985 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Daily - "Darkwing"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM 5-Speed - Donor - "Rusty Trumpet"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM Auto - Basket Case - "Ph÷nix"
    1987 2.3-16 NAM VEMS EFI 5-Speed - Track/Canyon - "Dimples"

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by WhereIsFirst View Post
    I'll second this. Cheap insurance really.

    https://www.ecstuning.com/Mercedes_Be...tat/ES1626674/

    Make sure to get the banjo fitting as well.
    Ill third that. You can steal one from an 8v motor at the yard for $4.
    1986 201.034 "Berthilda" 5-speed, Evo II wheels 225/45/17, 400E front swaybar, 400e rear brakes
    1986 201.024 M104 engine, 5-speed Conversion, Updated LE trim console, 400E front sway bar, W202 springs, Limited slip Diff, 16v Steering box, 3" magnaflow exhaust system, 16v body kit, 16v Fuel tank, 16v Brake Booster, 400E calipers, MS2 3.57.
    1993 201.029 Sportline LE.

  17. I do have an aluminum thermostat cover,,,,,just haven't installed it yet.
    Actually, this project is just sitting in a corner of my shop "on stand-by", since the local track has completely closed down now.
    They are bankrupt and we expect the bank to take over any day now. Hopefully someone will buy the track and get it going again, but it is in terrible shape.

    I do sometimes fire up the 190 on Saturdays to make a quick taco run, but other than that it is sitting most of the time.

    I'm also a little over half way to my goal of $$$$$ to build a shop at my house, so am spending most of my spare time trying to make extra cash so I can build my shop without having to borrow anything to do it.

    I sometimes think about maybe selling the 190, but then my wife talks me out of it,,,,so for now.........it sits and waits.
    MBZ independant tech since 1981 (numerous car projects)
    16v trackday toy https://forums.190rev.net/showthread....ck-day-project
    you tube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/benzracer9/videos

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Alain V. View Post

    I sometimes think about maybe selling the 190, but then my wife talks me out of it,,,,so for now.........it sits and waits.
    If you do ever decide to sell, please give us Rev members an opportunity to place a bid!

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Alain V. View Post

    I sometimes think about maybe selling the 190, but then my wife talks me out of it,,,,so for now.........it sits and waits.
    You have an exceptional wife that knows what you like and that you would regret selling the car and be miserable about it. Be sure to keep them both and you will have a happy and interesting life!

  20. #60
    Sovereign Guest
    I read heartland park was purchased this summer! I'm building a car hoping to be out there next year!

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