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Thread: Where is my stuff ... Newbenz2 ( kevin konchan )

  1. #41
    i sent james16v some money for swaybars, and nothing. this was a while ago. he hs not responded to email or pm. he hasnt even been on the forums. im wondering if hes still alive...
    1985 190e 2.0 8v forged internals, 5spd MT, EFI, 16v interior, sportline exterior, working on the turbo header now

    1986 190e 2.3-16 Nam, 5spd MT, stripped to the bone, I swear I'll start building it into a track car soon, seriously.

  2. #42
    That's bullsh*t. What's even more bullsh*t is that he calls you the first time you started the thread, makes some promises, then bails again. I know he called again and said he's gonna ship it again, but F that...just out of principle. I would demand a refund...and interest on top of it.

    I've sold lots of miscellaneous stuff online via forums, ebay, and amazon.... there's been several instances where I just got too busy to package/ship something after I received the money. It took a 2-3 days tops but I just refunded the money and said sorry, I couldn't fulfill the order within a reasonable time frame.
    Last edited by Robstibz; 08-25-2010 at 08:34 PM.
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    -2009 VW Jetta TDI DSG Downpipe and Malone Stage 2 150k

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Robstibz View Post
    That's bullsh*t. What's even more bullsh*t is that he calls you the first time you started the thread, makes some promises, then bails again. I know he called again and said he's gonna ship it again, but F that...just out of principle. I would demand a refund...and if you know where he stays, interest on top of it.

    I've sold lots of miscellaneous stuff online via forums, ebay, and amazon.... there's been several instances where I just got too busy to package/ship something after I received the money. It took a 2-3 days tops but I just refunded the money and said sorry, I couldn't fulfill the order within a reasonable time frame.
    Everytime i hear anything from Kevin, I hear "Next week". My shits supposdly been in boxes for 7 months ready to ship.
    Ive even given him the option of a refund. Doesnt seem to work.
    If he is starting a shop, hes already fucked up customer relations on here. People remember the bad over the good when it comes to reputations.
    Hopefully he sends me my money or my parts this time! And hopefully there worth a shit!

  4. #44
    And hopefully there worth a shit!
    That's a good point, an example being two engaged threads for the strut shaft nuts on his camber plates. Easy to install in under an hour, and presto! unsafe car! hooray!
    1985 ECE 2.3-16 5MT
    1984 NAM 2.3 5MT w/ 1988 8v engine

  5. #45
    Yea that really sucks.

    +1 for the sticky about good/bad buyers/sellers
    -87 16v MegaSquirt 2
    -2000 Toyota 4runner SR5
    -2000 VW Jetta TDI 415k (SOLD!)
    -2009 VW Jetta TDI DSG Downpipe and Malone Stage 2 150k

  6. #46

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    the problem with a good Rev seller vrs a bad Rev seller section is simple, Rev isn't a selling forum and any members that buy and sell do so at their own risk. I have been on the bad side of a few Rev members that ran with the money so I do feel for you.
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    Slightly tuned 84 190E 2.3 8v 5spd, Sebring/AMG header, custom exhaust, DTM can
    Flex-a-lite Electric Fan instead of Clutch Fan, 230 BHP M102.961 AMG
    BBS body kit, AMG duktail , Hella lights around.
    E320 brakes, Troutman drilled rotors, C230 EVO 17" Rims (225/45/17), Billie Sports (plus some of MRP's toys) and Sachs Performance Springs
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    newly added to the stable 83 Weiß 2.3, 90 Signalrot 300TE 4matic

    cheaper to just shoe horn in a MB V6 or V8 instead of a Mosselman Turbo kit to create the ultimate Rice Eater out of a Kraut Can

  7. #47
    I've lost a lot of money through this forum, but I've also gotten some really good deals on impossible to find parts for our cars.

    It really is a buy at your own risk kinda thing with used car stuff, but I would feel better about buying things if the seller at least had a reference from another member.

    Everytime I sell something on here, I list the people I've sold to or bought from recently to help put the potential buyer's mind at ease

    just my .02 but I understand why the rev can't endorse buyers or sellers or any deals for their own protection.
    good sellers: ukbenz, CSP, Dan_189, cephallus, rabidfox, scotttx, benzevo, David Hendy, flank_2112, neilr, Captruff
    BAD SELLERS:
    NEWBENZ2 (being resolved)
    SixSpeed (resolved )
    NEVER USE RITEWAY AUTO TRANSPORT!!!!!!!!

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by ship View Post
    I've lost a lot of money through this forum, but I've also gotten some really good deals on impossible to find parts for our cars.

    It really is a buy at your own risk kinda thing with used car stuff, but I would feel better about buying things if the seller at least had a reference from another member.

    Everytime I sell something on here, I list the people I've sold to or bought from recently to help put the potential buyer's mind at ease

    just my .02 but I understand why the rev can't endorse buyers or sellers or any deals for their own protection.
    I agree with the above statment,
    Internet shopping is always a risk. But theres no better place to find that one part or piece of info!
    I dont think the Rev needs to get involved with policing buying and selling on here. But, a section just for posting the ups and downs with dealing with a member might be nice. It might help with keeping the motivation up with completing a deal. That way another thread like this one doesnt show up again! There really was no need for this thread to go this far. But when theres money involved, things tend to get ugly.

  9. #49
    One easy way to provide customer feedback would be to simply use a quick reply on the for sale thread thanking for the satisfactorily completed transaction, or complaining about a bad transaction, and extreme cases like this definitely deserve their own thread out of the for sale section in the main forum so that the record stands forever and doesn't time-out.
    1985 ECE 2.3-16 5MT
    1984 NAM 2.3 5MT w/ 1988 8v engine

  10. #50

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    posting the comments about bad sales is better served in GM for the simple fact everyone sees it, or would be more willing to view it, just to see what all the whining is about. I am pretty sure any constant/steady Rev visitor is more than aware of what's going on. But hiding it in the sales or it's own section would involve someone actually having to go look (which would be good for the snide didn't you look in the " I told you so thread" later.
    Slightly tuned 84 190E 2.3 8v 5spd, Sebring/AMG header, custom exhaust, DTM can
    Flex-a-lite Electric Fan instead of Clutch Fan, 230 BHP M102.961 AMG
    BBS body kit, AMG duktail , Hella lights around.
    E320 brakes, Troutman drilled rotors, C230 EVO 17" Rims (225/45/17), Billie Sports (plus some of MRP's toys) and Sachs Performance Springs
    Sony MD with Rockford HPC 2204 4" in frt, Sony Xplod 4 way 6X9" in rear
    newly added to the stable 83 Weiß 2.3, 90 Signalrot 300TE 4matic

    cheaper to just shoe horn in a MB V6 or V8 instead of a Mosselman Turbo kit to create the ultimate Rice Eater out of a Kraut Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by veedubfreak86 View Post
    bump for people to read
    Quote Originally Posted by 16V4NRBRGR View Post
    Disappearing with money in hand is theft.
    Quote Originally Posted by MBRare16v View Post
    Geez what the heck is going on? This reminds me of the time a bunch of us got fucked on an exhaust group buy like 5 years ago. $170 bucks down the drain. He got like 20+ dudes to jump in on it. Killed the Rev and group buy have been plagued ever since.
    Quote Originally Posted by ship View Post
    ...we could definitely use a feedback section on here for buyers and sellers
    Quote Originally Posted by tjts1 View Post
    An effective tactic when issues like this come up on other forums has been to sticky this type of thread in the for sale section. It seems to magically expedite the issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by mercs dude View Post
    I vote for creating a thread so we post feedback on who is legit and who is screwing people around here. There maybe one or two of those people closing deals on this forum right now and taking money that members may never get back.
    Quote Originally Posted by 202brabus View Post
    +1 ftw
    Quote Originally Posted by Robstibz View Post
    Yea that really sucks.

    +1 for the sticky about good/bad buyers/sellers
    Quote Originally Posted by ship View Post
    ... but I would feel better about buying things if the seller at least had a reference from another member.

    Everytime I sell something on here, I list the people I've sold to or bought from recently to help put the potential buyer's mind at ease

    just my .02 but I understand why the rev can't endorse buyers or sellers or any deals for their own protection.
    Quote Originally Posted by DBMO View Post
    ...I dont think the Rev needs to get involved with policing buying and selling on here. But, a section just for posting the ups and downs with dealing with a member might be nice. It might help with keeping the motivation up with completing a deal. That way another thread like this one doesnt show up again! There really was no need for this thread to go this far. But when theres money involved, things tend to get ugly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cdn190er View Post
    posting the comments about bad sales is better served in GM for the simple fact everyone sees it, or would be more willing to view it, just to see what all the whining is about. I am pretty sure any constant/steady Rev visitor is more than aware of what's going on. But hiding it in the sales or it's own section would involve someone actually having to go look (which would be good for the snide didn't you look in the " I told you so thread" later.
    So, do we somehow agree in creating a thread were people would just chip in and drop a comment about a good/bad business deal or how pleasant/or not was the experience with this or that member of the forum? That would also give the other party a chance to express his point of view, who knows, there might be a good explanation (I can't think of one right now, however) as to why they have kept some one else's money for months without fulfilling their side of the deal.

    I work up to 120 hours a week, day or night, and I have never hang on to some one else's money for that long. Sure it took me two days to drop the box at the post office, but that was it.

    The problem I see with people taking avantage of others here is that, even though this forum doesn't endorse anyone and everyone buys at their own risk, it dimishes trust among members, and without trust, there's not much left.

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    This is what Im talking about. This guy is trying to get his parts with no response from the seller. He did write everything on the original thread, but no one really sees it unless they're interested in the same thing.

    https://190rev.net/forums/showthread....347#post436112

  13. #53
    brings about the same problem as people not searching before asking.. although I usually check out a member's threads before paypalling them anything, just to see if they're full of it
    good sellers: ukbenz, CSP, Dan_189, cephallus, rabidfox, scotttx, benzevo, David Hendy, flank_2112, neilr, Captruff
    BAD SELLERS:
    NEWBENZ2 (being resolved)
    SixSpeed (resolved )
    NEVER USE RITEWAY AUTO TRANSPORT!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ship View Post
    brings about the same problem as people not searching before asking.. although I usually check out a member's threads before paypalling them anything, just to see if they're full of it

    Research :) i look into some ones profile posts/threads before I do any business with them to check there creditability
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    Here's some random thoughts . . .

    - As Cdn said, we're an enthusiasts forum, not eBay. The buy/sell section is sort of a convenience to forum users, not the reason why 190Rev exists. We sure don't make any money off of it, but seem to have to deal with a modest amount of pissed off folks.

    - Caveat emptor applies. It's written all over the place in the forum and hope members take the time to read the FAQ to the Connect forum as well as all the other forums.

    - Search and do your "due diligence." There's a reason why we don't allow members without at least 10 posts to start a buy or sell thread . . . it gives everyone else a fair chance to see if the member is someone you want to do business with. Craigslist doesn't do that, for sure. However, any member here can do a search on another member's other posts and for threads where that member is mentioned by username. While not foolproof, it's a tool available to check a users history.

    - Be wary of group buys. Old timers here know this by heart. Countless group buys crash and burn, which is pretty sad and discouraging for the few that actually go through. I've been in the middle of at least three or four group buys gone sour and it is one of the least favorite things about having this job. From poor quality to outright theft, there's so many ways for a group buy to go wrong, that it's amazing that the few that do go through make it that far.

    - For those that sell or buy from the forum, how about leaving a message about the deal in the thread that started the sale? At the very least, sellers, let us know when the sale is completed so the thread can be closed . . . which by default would indicate a good transaction.
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  16. #56
    This is the last time I post in this thread. Its been almost a month and still no word or parts since this was brought back up. Im taking this as a loss. Guess I have lost more money at the casino before! ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBMO View Post
    This is the last time I post in this thread. Its been almost a month and still no word or parts since this was brought back up. Im taking this as a loss. Guess I have lost more money at the casino before! ha ha
    Sorry to hear that man.
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    yeah been contacted a few times saying the stuff was ready to mail and nothing i have consedered it a lose for the last year but was told to start this thread in hopes to help but it didnt :S
    66"-Mercedes 200d W110 OM617 swap in progress
    79"-Volkswagen Scirocco
    89"-Toyota pickup W/ OM617 Mercedes turbo diesel swap (SOLD)

  19. #59
    okay, its been months since I've talked to three different sellers on here about parts...

    newbenz cost me 1000.00 usd in storage, shipping, and purchase price of parts that can not be installed and he didn't mention that at all.

    I've never flamed anyone on the rev but damn, 1000.00!! thats a lot of money and I can't even get a phone call back, I waited for six months for him to send me a body kit that is completely fajangled and he couldnt even tell me it couldnt be installed?? did he think I wanted a 1000 dollar paperweight, or a funny story about how I got ripped off on the internet.

    I dont get it, I would never screw over another car guy let alone another revhead.. next time I buy something, Im asking for references.
    good sellers: ukbenz, CSP, Dan_189, cephallus, rabidfox, scotttx, benzevo, David Hendy, flank_2112, neilr, Captruff
    BAD SELLERS:
    NEWBENZ2 (being resolved)
    SixSpeed (resolved )
    NEVER USE RITEWAY AUTO TRANSPORT!!!!!!!!

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    I wasnt sure what to expect when I saw this thread back up on the home page, I wasnt expecting this though!
    Damn, Ship! That fuckin sucks!

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