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    C-class

    Just acquired.


    2018, 2.0 turbo, direct inject, 241hp, ~3600lbs, 9 spds, 5.8secs
    (fyi, 2019 is at 255hp, later torque, 5.9secs)

    Previously I had been staunch NA supporter for the 16V,
    but I can see every day that it is getting left far behind,
    and should be transitioned to turbo to keep up.
    Last edited by Hexadeca; 04-26-2019 at 09:08 PM. Reason: More specs
    '86 190E 16V, museum piece since '98

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    Would be great to have a Hexadeca turbo build thread!
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    congrats for the new car. My grandpa bought one a few months ago... pretty neat indeed.
    "Atlantian: Police call my actions reckless driving, I call it skills"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexadeca View Post
    Just acquired.


    2018, 2.0 turbo, direct inject, 241hp, ~3600lbs, 9 spds, 5.8secs
    (fyi, 2019 is at 255hp, later torque, 5.9secs)

    Previously I had been staunch NA supporter for the 16V,
    but I can see every day that it is getting left far behind,
    and should be transitioned to turbo to keep up.
    Happy early birthday
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    Modifications.....1987 190E 2.3-16V, Evolution 2 Body Kit, Evo2 Wheels, Cross/Drilled Rotors, Front Polyurethane Bushings, New Rear Link set, & Yellow Speed Racing Suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisfball12 View Post
    Happy...birthday
    Thanks, 59.

    The C300 was the first acquisition in over twenty years.
    Because I have that special combination of skills, time and space, I've been able to keep a portfolio of older vehicles up and running with fresh paint etc.
    Younger owners buy new cars, would not be able to keep older ones running.
    The quirky result is that, out on the road amongst contemporary traffic, each of my rides looks distinctively "Rip Van Winkle", out-of-time.

    It not just old versus new.
    During the last two or three decades, the basic entry level vehicle converged on a formula look that is quite ubiquitous and also, in my opinion, quite bland.
    I make a similar observation to how vehicles drive (ie how they handle, steer, how power comes on, etc).

    After all that review, then versus now, I've decided that I have a definite preference for old school.
    I kinda like driving the Socal freeways in freak vehicles, and am glad I skipped over the 20 years of "doing nothing".

    I actually DONT like the lightening quick steering on the C300, prefer the slower steering in the 16V. (Side note: have to concentrate to hold an arc (ie freeway ramp) and light posts on street corners are now at risk.)
    I actually DONT like the quick on-off throttle response. Again, have to concentrate too much to be smooth. Wow, passengers must think I'm an idiot beginner.
    I DO appreciate a much tighter turn radius, useful for tight parking lots, another annoying feature of modern life.
    I DO like the improvements in suspension and consider them worthy.
    I actually DO like driving a "big" 4.6 liter V8 with 5-speeds 24mpg, not the faster 2.0 liter inline-4 9-speeds 32mpg.
    I kinda regret turning in my '98 Lexus GS300, with 180K miles, but current life dictates I have a no-excuses under-warranty go-to.
    I actually DO like driving Socal traffic in a "look at me" unique, older ride. Side note: if you see a red Aerostar in San Diego county, that's me.



    With BMW 8-series, in front of the house that I designed and built 15 years ago and just now sold. Side: It's California, $1.73million.
    '86 190E 16V, museum piece since '98

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    the worst design feature of nearly all modern cars imho are those big flat fender arches, all the cars have them now, not sure why.
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    1984 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Sent to Graveyard - "Steve"
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    1986 2.3-16 NAM Auto - Basket Case - "Phönix"
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    Those Foxbody Cobra wheels are badass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretmachine View Post
    the worst design feature of nearly all modern cars...
    I go to headlights.
    Starting ten years back, at least on small entry level vehicles, the vogue look was to narrow the height of the headlights and smear them back along the joint between a low hood line and the fender.
    Entire parking lots are now filled with this look.


    Here, I think I'm seeing the C300 returning to traditional (corporate?) look with a taller hood line, more formal headlight treatment.
    To the left, the outgoing (gone) '98 Lexus GS300, which in many ways completed the rounded, integrated treatment that started in the mid '90's and is found on the W203.


    Of course, something has gone horribly wrong at Lexus: the Darth Vader grill.
    So we took a pass because of exactly that, went with Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurkBenz View Post
    Those Foxbody Cobra wheels are badass.
    Reps. 5 lugs instead of the original 4 on the Foxbody, fronts narrowed from 8.5 down to 7.5 by Weldcraft of Livonia,MI.
    Back story: 'Seventeens'.
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    Engine, tranny, limited slip & suspension are all my builds.
    Last edited by Hexadeca; 05-03-2019 at 04:26 AM. Reason: more pics
    '86 190E 16V, museum piece since '98

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    Flat fenders are so ugly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexadeca View Post
    Starting ten years back, at least on small entry level vehicles, the vogue look was to narrow the height of the headlights and smear them back along the joint between a low hood line and the fender.
    Entire parking lots are now filled with this look.
    I know what you mean, the offender of this that springs to mind is the Jeep that look like a Star Wars Rancor:
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    1984 2.3 8v Lorinser - Drift/track competition - "Grønne Pige"
    1984 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Sent to Graveyard - "Steve"
    1985 2.3-16 ECE 5-Speed - Daily - "Darkwing"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM 5-Speed - Donor - "Rusty Trumpet"
    1986 2.3-16 NAM Auto - Basket Case - "Phönix"
    1987 2.3-16 NAM VEMS EFI 5-Speed - Track/Canyon - "Dimples"

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    Please return that 2018 and get a 2019, the M274 engines are absolute TRASH, I cant tell you how many of those I see that need pistons or engine replacements. 2019 have the M264.
    Be careful will the steering wheel plastic trim, it scratches VERY easily,
    (Warranty might cover it if you complain enough). Comand and iphones dont get along to well. You'll be going in for a few campaigns and recalls. Mercedes you disappoint me. They dont build them like they used to, hopefully your 205 doesn't give you trouble.
    Last edited by 202brabus; 05-05-2019 at 08:38 PM.
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    1986 201.024 M104 engine, 5-speed Conversion, Updated LE trim console, 400E front sway bar, W202 springs, Limited slip Diff, 16v Steering box, 3" magnaflow exhaust system, 16v body kit, 16v Fuel tank, 16v Brake Booster, 400E calipers, MS2 3.57.
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    This demanded more research due to something called the "W205 facelift", which has been tagged to 2018 by the auto press.
    They then associate the M264 to the facelift'd version.
    This very well may be true in some markets, or maybe we are talking late 2018 build dates, sold at MY2019.

    Studying the cabin and styling cues on my 08/2017 build, sold in the US as a 2018, I've likely got a pre-facelift.
    Popping the hood on my US 2018 we find the M274.





    About the electronics, I had to separately proc the navigation software to get that working and there was a software compatibility date break at 08/2017 so I'm in the later version.
    Sans the software plug-in, the NAV system will also slave off a phone's app via USB.
    No problems so far.
    '86 190E 16V, museum piece since '98

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